Lions, fully grown male lions can dispatch even the most powerful of dog breeds in seconds. Of course it can right, man can drug the animal, defang it, de claw it, manipulate it, used a captive abused animal. Give me some evidence to show that a Dog's bite-force can come anywhere near that of a Jaguar. They would easily have the strength to not only kill the Dog, but drag it up a tree. Just watched this episode of Dogs 101 on animal planet, in the list of dogs featured the Dogo was one of them. This fight would be over in a few seconds. Rhodesian ridgebacks, dogo Argentina.......NONE of them. Good weapons make confidence. I mostly run Walker hounds. 3: I would wager that a Gray Wolf would decisively slaughter a Tibetan Mastiff too. Yes the mule killed the mountain lion. I bet if a massif or pit bull sunk its bite in the right spot, kitty is going down. Lions, fully grown male lions can dispatch even the most powerful of dog breeds in seconds. Jesus Christ, I've explained this several times. 2: Where in my post did I say I have proof of Dogs killing Leopards and Cougars? My moms dog is so viscous and she refuses to get rid of him! but it fight it throughout a zoo (the size of which is 14 hectares in size)(14 hectares = 0.5 square miles), 3: And i would happily take your money, due to the fact that Tibetan Mastiff's are bred to fight off wolves, leopards, bears, tigers. The following story about a dog and his pal will prove that these animals would do anything for their loved ones – including their four-legged best friends. Hell, a Gorilla has a higher bite force than a Lion and it'd get destroyed. First thing you're going to do is go to a zoo and study lion behavior and after you can predict their behavior, buy a ticket to Africa. Just got my frise. A Doberman takes on a mountain lion in a brutal back garden battle in this incredible CCTV footage. Why are you bringing up Tiger Sharks? Can a dog beat a mountain lion? 3: For your sake I hope your post is your attempt to cling to pride and nothing more. No it hasn't - in what way is a Dog holding onto the Cougar for its dear life for a short period of time until help arrives to kill it considered to be ''beating'' the Cougar? Jaguars are capable of killing Crocodiles, http://www.arkive.org/jaguar/panthera-onca/video-08f.html. If anything is half-arsed, it's your posts; which are among the most pathetic attempts I've seen at attempting to seriously debate. That's because you're a human; we are capable of punching, kicking and using submission holds due to our intellect/oposable thumbs. If I had you pinned on the ground with my hands wrapped around your neck how in the hell can you think you won that fight? Incidentally, dogs are of little help and may even attract a big cat. A Cougar/ Mountain Lion probably, but a Jaguar no. I've already shown you a story of a Dog beating a Cougar. ow I'm proving that a Tibetan Mastiff can beat a Jaguar. http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2011/08/14/interesting-creatures%E2%80%A6-the-jaguar/. Dec 12, 2019 - Explore Eric King's board "mountain lion" on Pinterest. 4: Besides a Kurdish Kangal, Tibetan Mastiff etc.. 6: Of course it would pal, keep believing that. The hunter got off the mule with his rifle and decided to shoot in the air to scare away the lion, but before he could get off a shot the lion charged in and decided he wanted a piece of those dogs. Very, very bad decision. In captivity, they can live up to 21 years. (which has much thicker skin). One blow from a lion's paw could break a wolf's neck, and one bite in a vital area would mean death. They are ruthless, heard they even kill wolves. NO DOG can fight a lion and win, ONE ON ONE or head to head if a lion was INTENT TO KILL. A fully grown unarmed human is capable of taking down a fully grown mountain lion in a fight, for the following reasons: Trained humans can hit with incredible amounts of force: George St Pierre, (a trained MMA fighter) can punch with 2859 lbs of force, and kick with 3477 lbs of force. Other shots can be less flattering (see below). Male cougars are anywhere between 160-200 and can get as big as 220. Pound for pound, cougars are more deadly than African lions, according to wildlife biologists. If you get one of the bigger gamer Caucasian Shepard’s I would back it as I’ve seen hundreds of fights usually pit bull mixes not great dogs and always a lot smaller against huge kangals or Shepard’s the bigger dogs win nearly every time the Shepard fights extremely smart doesn’t rush in stupid like the pit nearly always does if the pit is fighting another small pit it’s fine but these Shepard’s can workout a situation and adjust plus they are freaking massive you watch them fight they use advantages they have so well they swipe with there paws and use there paws to hold dogs down with there weight and many times they take a rest and turn there bodies other dogs are unable to get a hold of them when they do they are only biting loose skin of fur. There are dogs who could probably kill a mountain lion some of the time. @frozen: This in response to your reply to WayneWilson regarding the stories of Morocho..... Where the hell in the title does it say "Can Any single dog kill a Jaguar or Cougar"? And the comparison you've given doesn't hold up; it'd be akin to you holding me down with all you strength for a few seconds until someone else arrives to help you. There isn't a dog on THIS planet that can take a full-grown, healthy male lion. South African Boerboel have been used in Africa to guard livestock and to protect owners and their villages from lion attacks or attacks by other wild animals. You can sign in to give your opinion on the answer. Because this post isn't about killing, it's about beating Cougars and Jaguars. But I don’t think that answers your question. I want clear-cut evidence, I don't expect I'll get it though after reading your posts. A mountain lion was captured in Simi Valley on Thursday morning, but it wasn’t the same one that last week attacked two dogs, killing one in a Simi homeowner’s backyard, authorities said. but it fought it throughout a zoo (the size of which is 14 hectares in size)(14 hectares = 0.5 square miles). If you think only humans can forge strong friendships with each other, think again. No dog stands a chance agsinst a cougar. So a Sumo wrestler is stronger than a weightlifter or a boxer? There's nothing to suggest it was even capable of killing the Cougar or even signifcantly harming it. They use them in pretty small packs to hunt mountain lions in the Rockies. theres a video of a cougar ripping a dogo argentinos face off, i'll send it if you want. No Dog would be capable of doing that;considering the Dog story you posted shows that a Dog's bite was not even capable of killing a Crocodile, what chance would it stand in killing a Crocodile? It just held onto the Cougar to slow it down; and the owner was probably in a rush to get outside and kill it. Lions, fully grown male lions can dispatch even the most powerful of dog breeds in seconds. 1: A male Jaguar can kill crocodiles; 2: and they are capable of piercing turtle shells. This how a Tiger Head Mastiff looks like; it gives you a better view of the actual size. Depends on if it is a Michael Vick's Pitbull. A lion is a powerful and lethal predator and can easily kill a mule — however a mule can be quite an adversary. Answer by tomiva A Caucasian mountain dog bite is stronger than that of a lion and has the ability to learn the weakness of his opponent, the least it can do is to send the bear out, but if the owner or property is in danger then we are sure of a fight. In 2017, three mountain lions were killed in Modoc County under these permits. Nowhere in the title does it say kill it says > "Can any single dog BEAT a Cougar or Jaguar". If the latters were unhealthy and about to die then I think even a puppy can crush them. They have one of the strongest bite-forces among the big Cats, and are capable of dragging an 3: 800lb bull 25 feet. That was the lady with the bread knife, twelve inches long. This is more-so because such evidence does not exist. There are some dog breeds that big, but they are always slow as fuck with very little stamina and relatively small claws amd canines compared to their size. Bring nothing. Of the case studies I found, only one person managed to kill a mountain lion with a knife. Lions most often hunt rabbits and other small mammals, including small dogs and cats. If a fight between a lion and a dog was to take place, the dog would be dead within 20". I would rather have the cougar go after my dog than after me. The point is that a Jaguar had a bite-force strong enough to kill a Caiman; which have very thick skin. Again, a carnivorous predator fighting another would most likely need a kill to constitute 'beating' another animal; merely holding onto one for a few seconds until help arrives is not considered a win. They just replayed the same clip of the dog mauling it at 2:53 and 4:36. The young may stay with their mother for as long as 26 months, but usually separate after about 15 months. It held it down until the man came to kill it. Asked by Wiki User. You still haven't provided evidence to as why these Dog breeds can even pose a threat to a Jaguar; which is much larger on average, has demonstrated a higher bite force and has sharper claws/longer fangs. 1: How exactly was it debunked and how did Morocho lose to the cougar? Do you want to show you a video of 1 Dog killing 2 Wolves by itself? The owner killed the Cougar, not the Dog. Ha! It latched onto the Cougar in just enough time for the owner to arrive and kill the Cougar with a knife; so you have not ''proved'' anything, other than posting context-less pictures and not bothering to read your own articles. Just type on google man Kangals vs Pit bulls. Here is a video of it occurring - http://www.arkive.org/jaguar/panthera-onca/video-08f.html. This is the same mammal that also stands up … Good. A good knife does well up close. Hell, the Quora link you stated flat out says: ''There isn't much established research on this''. If you attacked me, grabbed me from mid-air and held me for a short while until someone else arrived to finish me off because you were incapable of doing so, then you would not have won - you would have merely been stalling because you are incapable of actually incapacitating me. If the Kangaroo can't get away and has to fight back, then its an almost certain win for the Lioness. mountain lionThe only dog capable of killing a Mountain Lion/Cougar/Puma how ever you call it.Is the Dogo Argentino. An Akita would protect you against any threat (human or otherwise). Am I wrong to start refusing to see my parents!? The other links you cite are from sources such as ''Canine Planet'' and the other source links to a dramatized reenactment, which of course, does not provide the context of the first link. I've never heard of a dog personally KILLING an African Lion but I have heard of dogs defending/fighting against them or chasing them off, if they do manage to kill a lion it's likely they do it in large packs. Funny how that works. LOL! why do people feed their dogs kibble food instead of real meat? As a flock guardian dog in Tibet and in the West, it is capable of regularly defeating predators of livestock such as wolves and leopards, and sometimes prevailing against the largest mammalian carnivores, including tigers and brown bears, although it uses all the usual livestock guardian tactics (e.g., barking, scent-marking perimeters) to warn wild beasts away and avoid direct confrontations. I have had Plott and blue tick hounds. A mountain lion may have snuck into a California home and snatched a sleeping dog from the foot of a family’s bed on Monday. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. LOL. LOL, you have gone from saying that Tibetan Mastiffs can fight off Leopards and Jaguars to now saying they can fight off Tigers and Bears. And that dog wasn't even that large. I suggest reading up on mountain lion behaviour. A Basenji dog in Africa attacks a wild lion and lioness. Mountain lions, like all other predators, prefer to focus on prey that is small, relatively easy to catch, and poses the least amount of threat. I’m often asked about dog breeds for mountain lion hunting. @frozen: If you're going to quote someone at least quote the entire message... Stop fetishizing animals for your own amusement. A wild or fighting dog has a puncher's chance in sed fight. You are seriously fan-wanking if you think they can fight off Tigers and Bears, yet again, you are making more ridiculous claims without any evidence. The two Plotts I had did really well, but I am just partial to Walker dogs. Once I challenged this and cited the fact that a Jaguar can pierce turtle shells; you backed off, so again, you are being disingenuous. I already proved that a Dog could beat a Cougar and now I've just proved that Dogs can beat Leopards and now I'm working on proving Dogs can beat Jaguars.. EDIT: Morocho had the cougar pinned to the ground with its Jaws around the Cougars neck, But the Dog (Morocho) is not trained to kill, it is trained to hunt and hold the prey until its master finishes the job just like all hunting dogs that are used for large prey. Pescadero resident Victoria Fought said she was sleeping with her daughter around 3 a.m. when she woke to the sound of her 15-pound rescue dog barking, the San Mateo Sheriff’s Office said in a release. And German Sheppard's would not stand a chance against...any Big Cat, hell, there is a video posted a few posts up of a Jaguar flat out stomping and killing a larger Dog. Through the process of SELECTIVE BREEDING and EVOLUTION, helped by DEVOLUTION too. LINK I think the dog would have a better chance if it were married. Between animals, a win - especially between carnivorous predators is about killing. Bagging his lion required multiple hunts over a two-year span. A mountain lion exhibited behavior considered "anything but normal" when it attacked and killed a 100-pound German Shepherd before standing its ground when the dog… 2: Where in my post did I say I have proof of Dogs killing Leopards and Cougars? They are of Lion Head Mastiffs, which make the Mastiffs appear to be much larger than they actually are. Atleast you are no longer arguing that a Mastiff can beat a Lion.... 4 years ago. They were pretty sure it was after a dog. Atleast you are no longer arguing that a Mastiff can beat a Lion.... 1: So you aren't disputing the fact that the Dog won? For the best answers, search on this site https://shorturl.im/aw24N. When well-known archer Chuck Adams pursued an archery super slam — taking all 27 North American big-game animals — the mountain lion was his final trophy and the toughest challenge. It says "Can Any single dog beat a Cougar or Jaguar" I've shown you evidence of a Dog beating a cougar. Is the Vine glitching up again? When he gets like this, I am much more alert. Assuming that we're are talking about a large, fully grown male Cougar or Jaguar vs their canine equivalent, then no single dog would win. some of the time, the only reported videos of big dogs killing a cougar is when 2 dogo argentinos beat a DECLAWED injured cougar. It is possible for a massive/aggressive trained dog to beat a young, female, and starving wild cat but even then I wouldn't bet on it. A male Jaguar can kill crocodiles; and they are capable of piercing turtle shells. The Dog did not kill the Cougar at all. The big cats kill by biting; their huge temporalis and masseter jaw muscles let them crush a prey's skull or snip the spinal cord at the back of the neck. That's their job. Answer by Cliff.Pitbulls #1 Ted Green, the comment you made about no dog can take a wolf. Again, a Dog clinging onto a Cougar mid-air for dear life until its owner arrives to save it isn't a win. They have known to rip open bulls out on the range in Ca. Because this post isn't about killing, it's about beating Cougars and Jaguars. 5: They are much, much stronger than any Dog; 7a swipe of a Jaguar's paw could crush the skull of a Tibetan Mastiff. The lion is a much larger and stronger animal, with much larger teeth and eighteen razor-sharp claws (wolves' claws are non-retractile and thus blunt from constant contact with the ground). Yesterday, Hoagie, a Lab mix, was walking with his guardians in the Santa Ana Mountains when they were attacked by a mountain lion. The dog was seriously injured in his attempts to fight off the large cat. The truth is that a Pitbull may beat Great Dane today, for example, then another day gets beaten by the same dog.. What Dog can fight a lion and have a chance of winning? The first is that a dog has more awareness than people and will alert you if a mountain lion is near, and might even scare the mountain lion off. They are much, much stronger than any Dog; a swipe of a Jaguar's paw could crush the skull of a Tibetan Mastiff. Answer by Ted Greene you are all nuts. Jaguar's prey on turtles and we have clear evidence of Jaguar's being capable of piercing the shell. The jaws of a Jaguar are among the strongest of the big cats: And I have provided evidence of the power of a Jaguar's jaw-bite: so again, where is the evidence that a Mastiff's jaws are strong enough to crush a turtle shell or dig into a Crocodile? a wolf would kill any dog including this one. So no, you still haven't really provided evidence that a Dog can ''stand a chance'' against a Cougar. Highly trained in the tracking, confronting, & killing of wolves. Man Who Suffocated An Attacking Mountain Lion Describes Fight For His Life Travis Kauffman, 31, was halfway through his run in the foothills outside Fort Collins, Colo., when he … Stop telling me that there are ''stories'' of such extraordinary events occurring; it's incredibly vague and lazy. :This post now should be post #513. http://www.comicvine.com/profile/frozen/forums/. You tried to argue that a Mastiff's bite was comparable to a Jaguar's. A local wildlife expert recommends anyone who wants to hike in mountain lion territory to carry bear Mace. Do you know how large Tigers and Bears are? Check out this video of a coyote doing just that. It sprays up to 30 feet and scares the lions long enough for a person to get away. So the answer is yes, a crocodile can beat a lion. It estimates that the mountain lion the woman confronted weighs about 150 pounds. 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